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    Ive been shooting the same rifle since I was 14 (20yrs). A semi auto 30-06 Remington. I've been wanting to buy a bolt action so that I could get more serious about 'shooting' and accuracy. After reading this page for a few years I figured Id like to hear some of yalls input. I have narrowed it down to a savage (the new combo) in .270 or .308. Does anyone out there shoot a .300 for white tail and the occassional black bear? I am a low budget guy. Lets hear it. Thanks
    Viper, I expect to hear from you for sure!
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    rifles
    i have been hunting for 15 years and all members of our club have always shot 30-06 or 270's.myself,i shot a savage accutrigger 308 and love it.never heard of many people shoting a 300 in our area
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    Viper here!
    It's a matter of personal choice really. I choose the Savage bolt action 270 winchester short magnum because of budget and research. I thought I wanted a 308 but after comparing the ballistics on Remington's 'SHOOT' program I knew the 270 would be better for me. The 270 WSM is a necked down 300 short mag. It was developed for the western hunters that hunt elk. It has about the same velocity maybe a little faster than the 300WSM. It is capable of carrying a smaller bullet. Bottom line smaller or lighter bullets shoot farther, faster and flatter. The only down side is this is a relatively new caliber and 20 rounds of premium bullets will set you back 50 to 60 dollars a box!!! Because of the casing size....in a bolt action you can only load one in the chamber and 2 in the magazine. It's a 3 bullet gun. The way I look at it is one bullet one deer. At 300 yards with 130 grains, I can hit bullseye with a 2.4 inch arc at 150 yards. At zero to 300 yards I just put the cross hairs on the deer and it goes down. Check out the web link and read more. Savage makes great great barrels yet they need to improve on their actions, i.e. in that repetitive shooting the action will get hot, expand and freeze up ( my experience). At 30 yards it will cut raccoons in half, disintegrate squirrels and blow shoulders off smaller deer! The 270 WSM is the middle of the road as far as I'm concerned. Maybe someone else can shed some light. I'm not a pro just a budget hunter!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.270_Winchester_Short_Magnum#Overview
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    Love Savage
    I love savages I own a 10 FP Le in 308 and I am in the process of building a 6.5 x 47 lapua on the savage target action. They are not the best looking rifles for sure but they shoot very well for their price. As for the caliber, viperx is right its personal preference, the 270 is a very good deer caliber. IMO if you want to use it for bears also, and are on a budget I would go with the 308, ammo is cheaper and you can get heaver bullets. If you are talking about the 300 win mag if your shooting deer at very long ranges (over 500 yards) its a good choice, if they are less than 500 yards I would stay with the 308 (less kick). Any bullet or grain you want to shoot out of the 300 win mag you can shoot out of the 308. The 300 win mag is great, I am looking at getting a 300 win mag barrel for my encore, but if your on a budget the 308 is cheaper to shoot. Do your own research, thats half the fun of buying a new rifle. Good luck
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    Rifle
    Hello

    I know if I was being very cost conscious or on a budget, I would choose the savage .270. Personally I like my browning .308 bar. I am getting to old to be dragging a deer out of the woods.

    CD

    Happy hunting
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    270
    i have shot the same old ruger 77 in .270 for 29 years and she has to be put up to keep her from hunting by herself!

    accurate and reliable,i have killed deer in their tracks out to a ranged 345yds. i shoot the hornady custom 140 grain sst. it hits like a hammer. i also have a 30-06 and 308 i use for closer in woods hunting. one advantage the 308 has is cheaper shootin' military rounds for coyotes and such.

    just my 2 cents!
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    good luck finding 1
    I shoot many different calibers but by far the 308 is my favorite all around gun I have 4 of them. The difference between a 308 and a 30-06 is about 100 feet per second and a lot less recoil. As for a 300 I have those too I have a Remington 300 sort action ultra mag and a Remington 300 ultra mag. Like them both. But I had to get a muzzle brake put on my 300 um because it would kill your shoulder. I watched my dad shoot his and it knocked his hat off and the iron sights on the gun off thatís how hard it kicks. I put mine up for 3 years because it was so bad. Now that there is a muzzle break it kicks less than a 30-06 but itís loud. I have never had but 1 deer run with either one or I shot it in the leg so what do you expect. I have shot around 20 to 25 deer with the 300s and multiple hogs. Have not shot any bear with them yet but would love to just havenít had any chances to hunt them. I like the 270 and have shot coyotes at 300 plus with them and 5 of the 6 biggest deer I have ever killed with it I do like it but I just have something for 30 calibers. I know a lot of people and my self that shoot a 7mm Remington mag also a good gun. Shoots good at long range too I have killed 1 deer at just over 400 yards with it. Missed first shot gut shot second and dropped it on the third shot. Basically chose what you want not what some one tells you. Remember who will be shooting it. Look at the ballistics of the different rifles and let that help you decide. You will be shocked at the number of flatter shooting rifle calibers other than the 270 it shoots well but there are no snipers or competition shooters that shoot them and that should tell you some thing about accuracy. Although my shoots Ĺ groups at 100 yard but thatís with reloads and a lot of trial and error. I have other calibers too not just those I mentioned.
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    They are correct I belive
    The savage is maybe the best value for the money. I have a savage model 110 It shoots grate But I have 6 Remington model 700, sig, HR, browning and some others but the 700 are about 450 and up then you buy scope mounts (which a good set is about 60.00) and a scope (I think the best value for the money is the Bushnell 3200 elite $275 to $300) which can cost any where from $100 ON UP. So you have to set a budget and you know what you can spend and I donít. Just get the most that you can afford the purchase you make will last a life time.
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    Purty Gun
    Well there you have it....a lot of great advise. One last thing. I choose the Savage 11F which has a composite stock. Because I'm meat hunting and wanted a gun stock I could crawl through the woods with and not worry about keeping it purty (pretty). Composite stocks will save you some money!
    I just love this site and all the regulars here. People that love this sport and have a lot of great input. I wish everyone well this gun season and be careful!
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    need it
    I need good luck cant seem to get a break this year. Althouge I am shooting letys of hogs shoot anther one this weeekend. have pictuers of good deer just not getting close. may be it will come. Hopefuly my wife can shoot one of the big ones this year.
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    Thanks
    Hey Thanks for all the input. There are a lot of helpful comments and info. Id like to get one of each, maybe one day. Thanks again and good luck this weekend. I will let yall know what I do when I make the purchase.
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    almost any gun you pick up will out shoot the shooter. I mean the accuracy of most modern guns will be determined by who is holding it.
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    I agree with Taxidermist
    Almost all rifles shoot fairly decent right out the box. Spend low on the gun and high on the optics. Spent years buying expensive rifles and putting cheap scopes on them. Finally figured out need to do it the other way around. Spend 2 hundred on the rifle and 3 hundred on the scope. Look at the classifiieds on this web site and you find nice guns with Tasco scopes!
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    Fog Proof!
    Make sure that scope is fog proof and not fog resistate! 50 mm lets you see in low light and forget the glowing crosshairs you cant see with a light in your eye! Rightway has a very good point!
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    rifles
    i deerhunt with a ruger m-77 .300winmag it was my dads when he died i bought it from mom it is just a little bit short of a cannon but with the right shot placement there is no tracking, i have killed 2 bucks they went a combined total of 60 yards. as far as your other choices they are all excellent,just remember take out a shoulder either one or the other and they don't go far, its hard to run on three leggs
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    savage rifles
    i picked up a savage model 116 last year in 300 win. mag. it has a muzzlebrake on it which helps with the recoil. the gun shoots real well and the accutrigger is awesome!! a great gun for the money. a 300 might be a little much for deer but you don't have to track them far. shot 2 last year with it, one at 125yds the other at 200, no tracking job. hope my 2 cents helps
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    accessorize
    i agree about spend the most on accersories. .270 or 7mm is all the power you need in my opinion. .308 and .300 is alot of fire power for a deer. invest in a muzzle brake to reduce recoil and a lighter trigger for lessened pull to insure accuracy...muzzle brake install should run you about 140 and getting your trigger lightened or changed out should be real cheap. The scope is where you need to be picky. high mm and fog proof...trust me foggy scope when the moose steps out will make you wanna wrap your gun around a tree. cant go wrong with Leupold. good luck
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    Savage!
    Savage has the accutrigger! It's great, with little effort you can drop the action and adjust it where you want it. I bottomed mine out. It's a little different getting used to feeling one trigger before you hit the second but, that's the beauty of it! When you feel the second trigger it's too late!BANG!
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